Today Gregory is joined on the podcast by Daniel Schmachtenberger and Jason Snyder. Daniel is the founder of the Civilization Research Initiative focused on finding a way through the twin attractors of increasing global catastrophic risks and control dystopias, addressing the underlying drivers of each and the unanticipated effects of our aggregate choices. Jason is a professor in Sustainable Development at Appalachian State University, a homesteader, permaculturist, and producer/host of the Doomer Optimism podcast.

What is “high nature,” and what is its relation to high-tech? Can both co-exist? Gregory, Daniel and Jason discuss how to apply tools of coordination and technology in a way that regenerates the planet rather than depletes it, the urgency to create local resilience, and the importance of improved coordination around carbon credits.